16 May 2026

From the Back Room: Saint-Saëns and d'Indy

The chamber music of Camille Saint-Saëns and Vincent d'Indy is hardly well-known; then again, when do we hear any of their music these days? The former's third symphony at times, the latter's Symphony on a French Mountain Air, perhaps.

So today's unusual combination of an octet and a septet, both featuring a trumpet are particularly welcome, especially in these performances by the Guilet String Quartet, trumpeter Harry Glantz, pianist Menahem Pressler, flutist Julius Baker and Claude Monteux and bassist Philip Sklar.

This 1954 recording was one of the readers' choices in my recent Buster's Back Room poll.

Saint-Saëns' composition is his Septet in E flat major, Op. 65, for Piano, Strings and Trumpet, dating from 1879-80. In it, the composer indulges his taste for his 17th century predecessors, melding it with the Romanticism of his own time.

Daniel Guilet and Menahem Pressler with Bernard Greenhouse

The performers are the Guilet Quartet, Pressler, Glantz and Sklar. The members of the quartet are unidentified except for its leader, Daniel Guilet. Generally he chose its members from the NBC Symphony, where he was concertmaster. In 1955, Guilet and Pressler would form the famed Beaux Arts Trio with cellist Bernard Greenhouse, who was not on this date.

This is an enjoyable performance that was a bit let down by the unsubtle sound that M-G-M provided. I have added a small amount of room tone so that it does not sound as though Harry Glantz is soloing five feet away from you.

Harry Glantz

Vincent d'Indy's Suite in Olden Style for Trumpet, Two Flutes and Strings, Op 24, is a similar work. The unsigned cover notes describe it as follows: "D'Indy's Suite in Olden Style undoubtedly was patterned after the Saint-Saëns Septet. Not only is it near in date to that latter work - it was composed in 1886, five years after the Septet was introduced - but it uses the trumpet in much the same fashion and is even formed in the archaic dance suite style of the Saint-Saëns effort.

Claude Monteux, Julius Baker

"Once again, the trumpet is used in both expected and unexpectedly lyric ways and d'Indy sets himself even more of a problem of balance by replacing Saint-Saëns' solo piano with two light-weighted flutes."

Despite the similarities in these compositions, d'Indy and Saint-Saëns were not all that close personally. The former was a pupil of César Franck, and an advocate for German music. When he became an official of the Société nationale de musique, he succeeded in admitting non-French music and musicians, which prompted Saint-Saëns to leave the organization.

Philip Sklar with an unvarnished bass

This is an unusual and enjoyable record, not least because it uses the bass of Philip Sklar to underpin the proceedings. Like Guilet, he was a member of the NBC Symphony. That ensemble was led by Arturo Toscanini, who retired in 1954, at about the time this recording was made.

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18 comments:

A N Other said...

Many thanks, Buster. Looking forward to hearing this one with pleasure!

MPT said...

Great music and great interpreters. Thank You. Do You have also Enescu - Octet for Strings in C major, Op. 7?

Buster said...

Thanks, Peter - hope it does give pleasure!

Buster said...

MPT - I don't, but it's on Internet Archive in a version that's new to me:

https://archive.org/details/lp_octet-for-strings-in-c-major-opus-7_georges-enesco-karl-krueger-the-american-a

Krueger mostly recorded American music. This one is on an obscure label I've never seen before.

NikZ said...

Cheers to you & thanks for honouring our requests Buster. I had a version of this but I look forward to sampling your guiding ear improvements! Although a string player myself I have loved the artistry & sound of Glanz’s trumpet for years, searching out any recordings I could find! Thanks always for the information & photos…wow! Best wishes to you, NikZ

Buster said...

Nik - Thanks very much for the kind words! Happy to provide this; hope you enjoy it!

Anonymous said...

Dave from Ardmore loved D'Indy's many echoes of the French baroque. I think Couperin and Rameau would have felt their spirits lived on in this wonderful work. As for the Saint-Saems, I doubt I'll return to it any time soon, if ever. Yes, the first movement has some impressive counterpoint. However, despite some lovely momemtss. the third movment doesn't seem to know how or where to end. In both pieces, Glantz lives up to his reputation as one of the finest trmpet players of the 20th century. He could, and did, play any kind of music. No wonder Toscanini prized his first-chair presence in his orchestra. By the way, your transfer is superb. Please keep foraging in your backroom for more MGM albums.

Buster said...

Thanks, Dave - insightful comments (about the music, not necessarily about me, although I appreciate it!).

diletanti said...

Very many thanks! Recordings by Daniel Guilet and his quartet is very rare.

Buster said...

diletanti - Happy to provide it!

Anonymous said...

You don't seem to mention it, but Harry Glanz was also a member of the NBC Symphony. He was Toscanini's principal trumpet with the NBC and also with the New York Philharmonic. He must have like the Saint-Saens (or been the only trumpet player in New York that knew the work) because he recorded it twice. The other is with Brooks Smith and the "Stradivari Quartet" (and Philip Sklar again!).

Buster said...

Anon - Right - I suspect everyone on the date but Pressler was with NBC. I don't think I've ever seen that other Glanz recording.

luckymike said...

From the Evensong to the "largely genteel chart toppers" (loved that), to Saint-Saëns, another wonderful haul I can't wait to find time to enjoy! P.S. I thought I knew most of the Ray Charles Singers recordings, but I didn't that one, so what a wonderful surprise it was! Thank you, Buster!

Buster said...

Happy to do it, mike!

centuri said...

Thanks so much for this rare and clever Lp: what a wonderful idea to put together these two convincing chamber works of two important and contemporary French composers. These pieces are unfortunately much less performed nowadays.
Also, in each of these works we find reminiscences of the French baroque suite , but not a pastiche (Fauré, Ravel and Debussy, to name a few, will have the same kind of inspiration). The interpretation is light and transparent. Great musicians indeed.

Buster said...

Thanks, Jean - since Harry Glantz recorded the Saint-Saëns before, this LP may have been his idea.

Bryan said...

Hi Buster, for obvious reasons, Classical music usually aggravates me, I sometimes try listing to this genre, because I never know how I will react.
This album was very nice and a bit soothing to listen to. I will have to re-listen to it again later for another evaluation though.
I am glad you shared it, and I downloaded it. I did so, because of Camille Saint-Saëns.

Buster said...

Hi Bryan - That's good! Happy you enjoyed it.